Stavros Halkias, Our Movie Star Friend
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The Boys talk to STAVROS HALKIAS about the podcaster-to-movie star pipeline.
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Speaker 1 (00:05): I don't know if this is the time to do it. I don't have to do it today. Okay. I mean, stop. I'll bring you in on this. Speaker 2 (00:16): Sure. Speaker 1 (00:16): I'm thinking of I'm going to be the guy who is finally calling Matt Johnson out on his bullshit. Yes. It's about time. Yeah. Speaker 3 (00:25): Well, the universal approval rating thing. Speaker 1 (00:28): Has gotten a little old. Speaker 2 (00:29): A little too much. Speaker 1 (00:30): A fucking break. Speaker 2 (00:32): The internet's dark. Speaker 1 (00:33): Yeah. Speaker 2 (00:34): And really, let's be honest, what the fuck has he done? Speaker 1 (00:36): Because he's strong. It is weird. Speaker 2 (00:38): His arms fucking piss me off. Speaker 3 (00:40): Big arms and then like, he's always got like, this good opinion. Speaker 1 (00:44): But he's saying it in sort of a funny way. Speaker 2 (00:47): It's actually, the thing about- And he was a nightmare on set. I mean, that's the other thing. Speaker 1 (00:54): Of course he was. He's just doing curls. Speaker 2 (00:56): And he gives you no direction whatsoever. You kind of have to figure everything out on your own. Fucking exhausting. And don't even get, listen, when we start rolling, we have to cut it out, but do not talk to any of the girl PAs on that movie. Speaker 1 (01:08): I'm just going to say that. Speaker 2 (01:10): Don't leave that in. Do not leave that in. Speaker 3 (01:12): That we should cut because who among us hasn't had issues with some of the girl PAs? Speaker 1 (01:20): That's not an area I want to explore. That's true. You know what? It starts with a PA. I give them a pass. A PASS. A PASS on that specific issue. But some of the other stuff. I'm talking about let (01:40): someone else talk at the interviews. Yeah. I mean, it was really like, I know. Speaker 3 (01:44): And I'm surprised you ended up in the movie because I could really feel. Speaker 1 (01:48): That he's inching, trying to inch around there. Tell me rehearsal wasn't this. So stop, you gotta be here. Yeah. You'll be doing this. Maybe you say something like this. Speaker 3 (01:55): And then he starts riffing and he's like, is the camera on? Speaker 1 (01:57): Were we rolling on that? Speaker 2 (01:58): So actually what, how, how I did all my lines was, They shot every scene with Matt in place. Speaker 1 (02:03): Yes. Speaker 2 (02:04): And he wanted me to get it word... I'm not saying word perfect. We're talking syllable perfect. And if I fucked up even one thing, he tossed a lobster at my head. Speaker 1 (02:13): No. Speaker 2 (02:13): And now I will say, look, personally, of course, abhorrent human being. Speaker 1 (02:18): Yeah. But. Speaker 2 (02:20): You know, you hear those Kubrick sets, you know? Speaker 1 (02:23): It's true. To get great art. Kubrick. Oh, right, right, right. It's fine. It's fine. Speaker 3 (02:29): And we're all talking extemporaneously, and we make mistakes. Speaker 1 (02:33): You know what I mean? Speaker 3 (02:33): Yeah. Speaker 1 (02:34): Kubrick. I'm so sorry about that. He has like an accent thing. He's not Kubrick. He's not Kubrick. That might be how they pronounce it. like it is true. It's a, it's that's in Greece. Speaker 2 (02:44): They do call him. Speaker 1 (02:45): He has like sort of a thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's all Greek to me. I love that stuff. That kind of stuff. And he's doing the special too. He directed the special. Of course he had to get in on that as well. Okay. And so it feel a little less special, didn't it? I will. Speaker 2 (03:02): It was this kind of thing where he called me and he, it was, it, it was pretty clear if I, Didn't say yes. Speaker 1 (03:09): Yes. A lot of my stuff was going to get cut. Speaker 2 (03:11): He was, he did, he did mention that he did, he just got off the phone with Paul Walter Hauser and he did let me know that A24, he was like, by the way, A24 really open to reshoots. By the way, who's directing your special? And I was like, um, uh, well, I don't really, he's like, can I do it? I was like, Yeah, I guess. Speaker 1 (03:30): And you're in production on this other movie. It's like if your Uber driver is like, we're just going to stop off at this other place. I hate when they do that. On the way, it's like, what, are you going to roll out of the car? That's dangerous. It's really dangerous. At that point, you don't have a choice. Speaker 3 (03:43): And it's, credit where it's due, it's master chessmanship. Speaker 1 (03:47): It is really. It's masterful chessmanship. Speaker 2 (03:49): Chessmanship at work. Speaker 1 (03:51): At the same time. that's not what artists are supposed to do with each other, right? It's supposed to be like this. Speaker 2 (03:57): Well, that's just open dialogue, community, just, you know, everybody having a good time. But yeah, it was, I will say when I win and I love that. I love that about it. I mean, when I saw the dink, I was, I was thinking, I was like, is me. Do they think about calling this the dank? Speaker 1 (04:12): Because, I mean, these guys must. Speaker 2 (04:14): Have been smoking some of the good shit. And I bet in that writer's room, you guys were getting the kush going, and you were like, now this shit would be fucking funny as fuck. Speaker 3 (04:23): The ganja sativa was extremely sticky and green that day. Speaker 2 (04:27): Oh, I love that. Speaker 1 (04:28): They had it in bowls. They would come around with the M & Ms. That with weed and lewds. Speaker 3 (04:34): Yes. Speaker 1 (04:34): Oh, you had the lewds flying. We had lewds. They're not the real lewds from the 70s. They're the new lewds. Sure. They don't make you as horny, unfortunately. They make you much more productive. Yes. Speaker 2 (04:49): Are you thinking of Adderall? Speaker 1 (04:51): No, these were the new lewds. And how do you feel on them? Focus. Focus, kind of jittery. Yeah, like driven. Yeah, like your work is just like suddenly done. Your jaw's going a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cigarettes taste a little better. They taste a little better. I love that. Speaker 2 (05:03): And were you like, you guys were kind of drugging the old ladies on the movie to keep them alert with the new lewds? Speaker 3 (05:09): Yeah, well, they don't want to do the long set days that we need to do. And ultimately, the work has to happen. Speaker 1 (05:16): Oh, yeah. Speaker 2 (05:18): You're giving them an opportunity and they kind of spit in your face and are saying shit like, I don't want to do this, you know. Speaker 1 (05:23): No, when you. Speaker 3 (05:24): Discover someone like Mary Steenburgen, you say like, here's actually a chance to In Hollywood, be in a movie. Speaker 1 (05:34): And she's, as you said, falling asleep. Speaker 2 (05:37): Right, right, right, right. And I will say you're a really good guy for that casting. Speaker 1 (05:42): Thank you. Speaker 2 (05:43): When I was watching that, I was like, this is a really good movie. Clearly these guys were smoking ganja when they're writing this stuff. Speaker 1 (05:50): Guilty, guilty. Speaker 2 (05:51): And I was thinking like, fuck, I wish I was. And not only were they smoking, I wish I was smoking what they're smoking. Speaker 1 (05:57): Right. Speaker 2 (05:57): I'd like some of that. Speaker 1 (05:58): It's special. Dream block rotation. Because there's different kinds. There's different kinds of, like, if you smoke it, it actually is different. If you smoke the different kinds. So what they were smoking was different. And I want that. Yeah. Speaker 2 (06:09): I want that just by myself. Speaker 1 (06:10): It would have been awesome. Speaker 3 (06:11): Yeah. Speaker 1 (06:12): It's so different. And all the different kinds, actually. Speaker 3 (06:16): I'm glad you brought this up. All the different kinds of different kinds of weeds. Speaker 1 (06:20): Yeah. I want that. I want that. It's so different. I want what the dink is smoking. The one that we had. I don't even know if they make it anymore. Because it moves so fast now. Speaker 3 (06:30): Yeah. Speaker 1 (06:30): And I can't keep track. Well, that's that OG Stiller kush, right? Speaker 3 (06:34): Mm-hmm. Speaker 1 (06:34): Tropic Thunder. Ben's private stash. Speaker 2 (06:37): The Stiller collection. And were you kind of washing those down with Stiller sodas? Speaker 1 (06:43): Yeah, I was chugging, popping some Shirley Temple. Speaker 3 (06:46): Some of the flavors that aren't even on the market yet. Because they're in the labs. Speaker 1 (06:50): It's still our labs. Speaker 3 (06:52): They are going absolutely insane. And I want some of what they're smoking. Speaker 1 (06:57): Oh, my. Speaker 2 (06:58): And now you want to talk about what we're. They make what the dink was smoking look like dog piss. You know what I'm saying? Speaker 1 (07:05): Yeah. Speaker 2 (07:06): And I want what they're smoking. Speaker 1 (07:07): Smoking dog piss sucks, dude. I fucking hate smoking dog piss. Speaker 3 (07:10): But dog piss is one of the flavors that they have as well. Speaker 1 (07:13): So Stiller's, yeah. Speaker 3 (07:15): It's going to be Stiller's dog piss creamsicle. Speaker 1 (07:17): It's not just dog piss. Oh, I like that. Speaker 2 (07:18): Cut the piss a little bit with cream. Speaker 1 (07:20): And that's smart. Speaker 2 (07:21): And so, and what I'm thinking is like, wow, this is such a good set, you know, and it looks so fun and they're having a great time. But Mary Steenburgen's character, I'm thinking like, really think this should be like maybe like a 25 year old with like huge tits kind of like that was a weird choice we went down that road we went down that road and so I and what I'm saying is like I see (07:43): that I'm like this is weird Jake Johnson's like in his 40s and like she's not at least a decade younger than him. Speaker 1 (07:50): He's in his forties. Speaker 3 (07:51): Why is he not bagging some co-ed? Speaker 1 (07:55): Right. Speaker 2 (07:56): And that, if I have a note. Speaker 1 (07:57): Fresh off the Pepperdine campus. If I have a note, exactly. Speaker 2 (07:59): Why did it take, why wasn't he playing, why wasn't he playing pickleball at the Pepperdine campus? And sort of. Speaker 1 (08:05): Overlooking the bluffs there. Oh my God. Speaker 3 (08:07): Overlooking the bluffs. Speaker 2 (08:08): And so what I'm saying is you're a really good guy for putting, you know, I would say a not traditional, that was my one note is like, This isn't really believable to me. Speaker 1 (08:17): It wasn't getting you off, is what I'm hearing. Or at least not how you're used to. Well, I did not. Of course. That's why we made it. I did. And so that's important. It was an improvement from who they were looking at originally for the part. So it didn't get all the way to the 25-year-old co-ed. Oh, interesting. Speaker 2 (08:40): So you're saying this was. Speaker 1 (08:42): It was Ken Starr. This was sort of an in-between compromise. Ken Starr. Speaker 3 (08:45): Ken Starr was originally going to play the role of Candace. Speaker 1 (08:48): Interesting. And then we lost Ken. Speaker 2 (08:50): What did you lose him to? Speaker 1 (08:52): The devil. Death, right? Oh, right. Satan. Satan claimed him. Well, the devil finally got. Speaker 3 (08:59): Both paws clutched around Ken's luscious shoulders and was able to pull him down to Hades. Speaker 2 (09:07): He was paddling down the river Styx. While Steenburgen's, you know, sucking face. Pennies for the eyes of the dead body, the corpse. Pay the river man, the boat man. Speaker 1 (09:20): The toll man. Yes. Watch out for Xerxes. Speaker 2 (09:26): It is so clear how much of your work. is imbued with these old ancient stories. Speaker 1 (09:32): Oh my God. These are your friends. You grew up with these characters. Mickey Mouse. It is. Oh my God. And now I say, it's all Greek to me. It's all Greek to me. You said that, but now he says it like that. Now he says it like that. It's different. Storytelling, It's all Greek to me. It's like (09:53): the goosh. There's only one story. Yeah, and what's that story exactly, would you say? It's the process. Summer making clams. It's the summer. It's the process. You're right. It's clam summer. It's the process of clams being cooked in the summer. Cooked in the summer. On an open flame. Speaker 3 (10:11): And it starts, and it's a closed clam, isn't it? Speaker 1 (10:14): Oh, my God. And it's cold, and it's briny. Right. It's not edible. This is our hero. Speaker 2 (10:19): What would happen if you tried to put that in your mouth? You'd break your fucking teeth. But what happens over time? And so we must go on a. Speaker 1 (10:24): Journey, shouldn't we? A hero's journey. The hero's journey. Speaker 3 (10:27): To open and expose their vulnerable belly. Speaker 2 (10:29): And slurp it down. Speaker 1 (10:31): Slurp the belly down. Butter and lemon. Speaker 2 (10:33): And that's beautiful. Speaker 1 (10:34): Oh, my God. Dominic, dude. Yeah, yeah. Dominic. A good fucking kid. A good guy. Good guy. Yeah, but. You know, good at. Yeah. Sucking really bad. He fucking sucks. I'm sorry. And I understand why you're saying that. I have to (10:55): be the one to actually say it. Speaker 3 (10:56): Well, somebody's got to call him out on his shit where it's like we all see the same thing, right? Speaker 1 (11:02): Sure. Speaker 2 (11:03): Well, look, sweetheart, sweet guy. You know, here's the thing about Dominic. Speaker 1 (11:06): Dominic's dominant. You know what I mean? Speaker 2 (11:08): Dominic's going to be Dominic. Speaker 1 (11:09): I don't even agree with that necessarily. I don't even agree with that. Dominic's going to be Dominic. I trust Dominic to be Dominic. Except when he's not. I don't even think he is. Speaker 2 (11:17): Dominic's not. Look, Dom's Dom. Speaker 3 (11:19): You know? Speaker 2 (11:19): And he's going to come in. He's going to do his work. What happens between, you know, when action... Listen, they call action. Speaker 1 (11:25): They call cut. He's there. He's a pro. Speaker 2 (11:27): What happens in between those? That's none of my business. Speaker 1 (11:30): That's none of your... Frankly, that's none of your business. What happens in between... Cut and action. Yes. Action and cut is great. You talk a lot about what they do between action and cut, but between cut and action, we don't always discuss. Speaker 2 (11:40): A lot of people don't talk about that. Speaker 3 (11:42): Yeah. Speaker 2 (11:42): A lot of people don't talk about that. Speaker 1 (11:43): Getting discovered at a New England private school. Yeah. You know, he's in the independent school league and he gets discovered by Alex Payne. Yeah. That's tough. How about someone that graduated from one of these schools 18 years ago? Thank you. Speaker 3 (12:00): Or even. Speaker 1 (12:01): Or even. 22 years ago. Right? Right. Or how about somebody. Speaker 3 (12:07): Who took a long, hard look at those schools and said, maybe if I get my grades up. Speaker 1 (12:11): Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. 30 so years ago. Of course. Drove by the highway exit to those schools. Totally. A couple times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Speaker 2 (12:21): And I do, I will say my problem with the holdovers, he seemed a little unseasoned, a little young. Speaker 1 (12:27): Yeah. And why was it, why was it a student? Why wasn't it like the janitor? Yes, a 25-year-old female janitor. Speaker 2 (12:37): With Paul Giamatti. Speaker 1 (12:38): And you know what would fix that eye real quick? She shows him her tits. Speaker 3 (12:42): Uh-huh. Speaker 1 (12:42): And his eyes. Yeah, it makes a sound, yeah. That was the problem. There was nothing worth looking at. There was nothing worth looking at. And yeah. I'd hold those over. Speaker 2 (12:59): Yeah. Speaker 3 (12:59): Yeah. Speaker 1 (13:00): Oh, yeah. Why are you holding him over this? Speaker 3 (13:04): And he's gesturing somewhere. Sure. Speaker 1 (13:06): We don't have to get into it right now. No, because it's honestly, it's a family show. Absolutely. Speaker 2 (13:10): It's more about the industry and the insider stuff. Speaker 1 (13:13): Thank you for knowing the show so well. It's to teach kids about the business, of course. And I love that about this show. Oh, my God. Speaker 2 (13:20): It's more educational than anything. Speaker 1 (13:21): Have you been on Bellany yet? Speaker 2 (13:24): I have not been on Bellany. I'm hoping if I do good enough here, Bellany might ask me about it. Speaker 1 (13:30): He listens. He listens. Speaker 2 (13:32): If he ever wants to cover podcast clips, how much those are. Speaker 1 (13:37): Affecting the industry, I think I could be a pretty. Speaker 2 (13:41): Valuable resource there. Whether you have to bleep cum for YouTube to let you do it, whether you don't. There's a lot of philosophical back and forth. Should you censor the word? If you're going to say jizz, People don't understand. Speaker 1 (13:55): Or Spooge or Spunk. Spooge, Spunk. Spunk is usually fine. Spunk talks about spending $ 250, 000 a year on his, like, lipping operation. Right, right. I wish I remember the days where we were only spending 250 G's a year. Speaker 3 (14:10): I look back at that with, with, with, uh, tears in my eyes. It was such a beautiful time where it was like, Oh, it's just a quarter mil to make these clips for the podcast. Speaker 2 (14:19): Absolutely. Speaker 3 (14:20): Drop in the bucket because the reward that you're getting is in our case, sometimes 20, 30,000 listeners a week. Speaker 1 (14:26): Wow. Speaker 3 (14:27): Yeah. Speaker 2 (14:27): Those people are all, but here's what you guys do. Right. Speaker 1 (14:30): That's the top, Oh my God. Speaker 2 (14:32): And so most of your ads are like made back. Speaker 1 (14:34): Our list is crazy. Our direct mail list is unbelievable for the podcast now. Speaker 2 (14:39): And that's what podcasts need. The future of podcasting is a direct email. Speaker 1 (14:44): Glossy. Oh, I'm talking mail. Oh, you're talking real mail. Yes, direct mail. Glossy. And with snail mail. Snail mail. I like that. Speaker 2 (14:51): That's a little retro. And maybe we put in a cassette of each podcast. And that's the only way you can. It comes with a Sony Walkman. I love that. Speaker 3 (15:00): And you get your own wired headphones. Speaker 1 (15:03): And the cassette has an audio version of a QR code on it. So if you hold it, if you have a special audio QR reader for your phone, that is your phone. It'll play it on your phone. And it's like, the tone is like a fax machine or the internet. It's like, right? Speaker 2 (15:18): It's like really ear splitting. Speaker 1 (15:20): It's Richie. Speaker 3 (15:21): Yeah. Speaker 1 (15:22): Richie makes the, he makes that sound. And I love that. Speaker 2 (15:25): And that's, Like you said. Speaker 1 (15:26): This is Richie over here. Hey, Richie. We were talking earlier. Richie Sambuca. Oh, hell yeah. Speaker 3 (15:32): Richie Books. Speaker 1 (15:34): Richie Books. He loves that licorice-flavored liqueur. Oh, my God. That's it. He cannot get enough of it, man. Speaker 3 (15:41): I mean, you must have got a whiff of it when you walked in. I did. Speaker 2 (15:43): Yeah, he greeted me, and I was like, is this a vagrant? Yeah. Who let this fucking guy in? But then he opened up. He adjusted a mic, and I was like, oh. Speaker 1 (15:51): Mm-hmm. Oh. Speaker 2 (15:52): Look, how much are they spending on clipping? They got to cut some corners. Speaker 1 (15:57): Oh, you got to find places to say. Speaker 2 (15:58): If you're doing half a mil on clips, you got Richie Books plugging. Speaker 1 (16:01): In the fucking XLRs. Speaker 3 (16:02): You got somebody who's willing to be paid in a single bottle of Sambuca every day. Speaker 1 (16:06): The schnapp has an upswing. Yes, yes, yes. And he says he doesn't drink schnapps. He just has one schnapp. Speaker 2 (16:12): One schnapp. Let me get a schnapp. Speaker 1 (16:14): And then, you know, you catch him on the way up. I love that. I really fucking love that. And that's something, can I say something? Speaker 2 (16:21): That's something Bellany should cover is sort of the auxiliary figures in podcasting. Speaker 1 (16:26): Everybody knows the host. Everybody knows the guest. Speaker 2 (16:28): What about the guy who's drunk and he's plugging in the mics? What about the producers? These guys who somehow became very important to entertainment, and none of them have any training whatsoever. Speaker 1 (16:39): Yeah. It wasn't a job a few years ago. Yes. And they were trying to do anything else. Anything else. And now they could kill me. Speaker 2 (16:48): They make more than a WNBA max in some cases to just push a button. Speaker 1 (16:52): And now they record millions of dollars worth of blackmail every hour. Speaker 3 (16:56): Yeah. Speaker 1 (16:58): And we just trust them. People, once again, their jobs didn't exist. Speaker 3 (17:02): They were unpaid interns at a media company who now have become the actual head of the snake. Yeah. Speaker 2 (17:12): That's a big fucking problem, I would say. And that's something us as the actual creators, as the real kind of, you know, The talent. Speaker 1 (17:20): The talent. We can say it. Speaker 2 (17:22): We can say it. Speaker 1 (17:22): I guess that's true. I'm trying to be modest. There's different kinds of talents. And I'm not saying- This one you can actually see. Right. Speaker 2 (17:27): This one is sort of God-given. There's no amount of YouTube tutorials that can tell you how to be a captivating presence when talking about industry insider gossip. Speaker 1 (17:37): Except we are going to make one. Oh, interesting. Hayes and I are going to make one. I like this. Speaker 3 (17:44): And we're really excited to launch this. I think it's going to be coming out next week. Speaker 1 (17:50): It's next week. It's a week from tomorrow. Okay. Speaker 3 (17:56): And it is a YouTube series that teaches you how to be a captivating figure, just like you said. Speaker 1 (18:02): Wow. And what are the odds? And by the way, it's just, we were sick of. Speaker 3 (18:08): The sort of gatekeeping that happens in this industry where it's like, only for me. Speaker 1 (18:14): Right. Or more and more. Right. And it's taking... Some of the lessons from some other courses we have taught- Oh, yes. Speaker 3 (18:22): That establish- you know, you know, right. Speaker 1 (18:27): Safe touch. But it weighs is like, Oh, I'm not trying to fuck at the end of this. You know what I mean? It's about connection. Speaker 2 (18:33): It's about energetic transfer. Speaker 1 (18:35): That's right. But it's a lot of the same stuff. It's a lot of money. Right. So that people will want to fuck. Speaker 3 (18:41): Yes. Speaker 1 (18:41): Right. And so it's a totally different route. It kind of flips the whole thing on its head. Speaker 3 (18:46): And I think it could be really beautiful. And the nice thing about the course, it's not that expensive. Right. Speaker 2 (18:52): How much are we talking? Speaker 3 (18:53): It definitely will work, so any price would be fair. Speaker 1 (18:56): I agree with that. Yeah, but what would it be, though? Just numbers-wise? Speaker 2 (19:01): Just numbers-wise. You think any price would be fair? Speaker 1 (19:04): I mean, it's like, what do you get for it? How much is the actual course? Right. How much is that? Honestly, that's actually what I'm asking. We're paying you. But how much does it cost to take the course? Yeah, exactly. What are you actually putting into it? Oh, so you're going to make it more. I see. Speaker 2 (19:20): So the more you put in, the more they pay you, the more they'll make. Speaker 3 (19:23): Well, that's an interesting way to look at it. And that is something we do say on the email. Speaker 1 (19:27): So is it sort of like a Radiohead pay what you want model? It's like a piece rate where it's like, it's $ 3 a full course. Interesting. A full course. So for like a full course, it's $ 3. Easy. Easy. You're in. Speaker 3 (19:43): Yeah. Speaker 2 (19:44): And that's every time you watch it. Speaker 1 (19:45): Is that how you trick them? Speaker 2 (19:46): Where you're like full course, but if you pause. Speaker 1 (19:48): That's every time you watch. it, you paid $ 3 for it? Mm-hmm. The one time. The one time. Okay, every time you watch it, you did pay that. Speaker 2 (19:57): So the answer to the question I asked was $ 3. Speaker 1 (19:59): But it would be worth twice that. Six bucks, eight bucks. Speaker 2 (20:04): I'm over here saying, yeah, I would say pay-per-view. You should do it like a big pay-per-view thing where everybody, every time they want it. Speaker 1 (20:11): So it costs like a single event. It costs like a, like a couple of pennies. I mean, those two pennies that we got from the river sticks. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Speaker 3 (20:22): Well, and honestly, teaching these people to become famous, like, they are sort of paying a toll to enter hell, aren't they? Speaker 1 (20:28): Oh, that's such a fascinating way to look at it. I mean, isn't that powerful? Isn't that sort of, like, discreet? Speaker 2 (20:32): Well, because everybody thinks they want this, but they don't know. Speaker 1 (20:35): They don't actually want it. They don't understand, like, the toll it takes. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Oh, my God. Sticks season. Absolutely. Sticks season. Mm-hmm. It's taken a toll. Speaker 2 (20:47): It's certainly taken a toll on my soul to be a creator. And, you know, sometimes corporations. Speaker 1 (20:52): Stop you from really speaking. This is what we, I mean, like we talk about this in the course. You are proof of something that we have always known, which is that podcasting translates directly to feature film. Speaker 2 (21:05): Yes. I would say what I am is an absolute proof of that being true and not one of the most insane exceptions that no one, including me, fully understands. Speaker 1 (21:15): It's exactly what the industry needed right now. Movies were getting too immersive. People were too good at acting in movies. You needed someone who- you immediately thought to yourself, I'm watching a movie. Right, right. You're like, wait, what the fuck? I remember that guy. I know that guy. From the something else. Right, I know that guy. This is a movie. Oh, right. Speaker 2 (21:36): I was in it for a second. Speaker 1 (21:38): Yeah, can somebody take me out of it? Because I want to be able to find my car after this. Right, right, right. You know what I mean? I don't want to be all the way. I don't want to be in the world the whole time. It's like you're watching the movie and now your brother is there. Right, right. Speaker 2 (21:51): Because it's... Cause it's really, it's like, wait, is that, is that, did I go to kindergarten with that kid? You know, it's kind of that, how the fuck do I know that guy? You want people doing that in the middle of like a really important scene. You almost say hi to the screen. Speaker 1 (22:04): Right, right, right. And it's hard. Speaker 2 (22:06): Cause like, here's the, what's, what's the difference? Like if, if, if let's say I'm not there in that movie, people walk out and they're disoriented. They're like, is it fucking 1976? I'm fucking scared. Speaker 1 (22:17): What is it? Ah, they see their phone. They're like, ah. They're taking the old lewds. Speaker 2 (22:21): They're taking the old lewds, not the productivity lewds. Speaker 1 (22:25): And so that's why I'm there. You're like, wait a second. Speaker 2 (22:27): I remember a clip went viral about that guy nutting too fast. Speaker 1 (22:31): Uh-huh. That's not a clip from the 70s. Speaker 2 (22:36): Wait, that guy used to ask people, that guy made a sizable fortune asking people if they squirt or not for about three months of his life. Why is he in her kitchen with Antonio Banderas? You want people asking those questions. You don't want them getting too scared of, because that's the thing, the art is so powerful. Speaker 1 (22:54): Tony was so powerful. It's so powerful. It needs an ejector seat. Speaker 2 (22:58): And to go back, when Matt called me, he was like, I've made the best movie of all time. People are going to go insane. They're going to, they're going to think they're, they're going to think that they're in Cape Cod. Speaker 1 (23:12): I'm doing a fucking bad Barack Obama impression. That's what he's doing. It's so obvious that he's doing Barack. Can I say something? Speaker 2 (23:19): Him and Buttigieg are the number one guys that are clearly aping Obama. Speaker 1 (23:28): They're just completely stealing his whole thing. Speaker 2 (23:30): And he called me. He's like, I am too good. Speaker 1 (23:32): At making movies. Speaker 2 (23:33): I'm too powerful of a storyteller. As you know, there's one story. And what we want to do, we want to inject something new, though. We want people to forget. pretend, forget it's a story, or remember it's a story actually, because it's too powerful. Speaker 1 (23:47): And so- And he misspoke too. And he did. Speaker 2 (23:49): Dude, I'm so used to saying exactly what he said. Speaker 1 (23:53): No, it's word perfect. It's syllable perfect. It's syllable perfect. Speaker 2 (23:55): This is kind of, you're basically listening to an audio recording. Speaker 1 (23:58): Of what Matt said to me. You're traumatized. I am. This is what I'm seeing, is I'm seeing trauma. Speaker 2 (24:02): Every time I see like a- You talk a lot about that in the special. Speaker 1 (24:06): I do. Speaker 2 (24:06): The last 15 minutes is about every time I see a guy with a fat face but jacked arms and gray sweatpants, I start to cry. When I see a guy who's inexplicably in champion sweatpants from Walmart giving interviews to some of the biggest news outlets in the world in a shitty little white t-shirt, I get scared every time now. And I'll have to live with that, but (24:26): that's the price of art, right? Can I ask a question about the special? Speaker 1 (24:30): Yeah, please. Speaker 3 (24:31): Cause you got this great special and it's going to come out. Speaker 1 (24:33): Everybody's going to laugh their ass off. I really hope so. Speaker 2 (24:36): I hope, you know what I hope they do? They say, what the hell were they smoking? Speaker 3 (24:41): I feel like I'll have that question, but I have a different question right now. Speaker 1 (24:44): Yeah. Just one mic. Great question. Great question. Just one mic. Some of these specials are doing two or even three. Three mics. Oh, right. Yeah. I know. Speaker 2 (24:56): Well, for me, it was really, I tried two mics. Speaker 1 (25:00): Yeah. Speaker 2 (25:00): And the sheer, like, just like brain power it would have taken to switch from one type of mic to a completely different mic. I tried it and I started crying. I tried to go from narrative, from storytelling to one-liners. And I honestly, it was, we had to. We had to actually stop. I lied and said I broke my arm. (25:23): I actually had a psychotic break because I tried to do three. Speaker 1 (25:27): I tried four mics. I tried four mics and I was hubris. It was pure. And that's the thing. That is the dark side. Like we said, people aren't ready. Speaker 2 (25:35): For this because they put you in movies almost maybe as a cosmic joke to real actors. Maybe, what probably happened is some really talented fat actor sinned really bad and his punishment is I get all his roles. He is a classically trained actor and he has to see me pop up in Tony. So that's probably what happened. And when that happens. Speaker 1 (25:56): To you, you get this hubris and you think, I'm a real actor. Speaker 2 (25:59): I can do anything. I'm going to try four mics. And since then, it's actually been a really big problem. I was institutionalized for- And that's why we postponed the special two months. I didn't actually break my arm falling off a scooter because I needed to get home to get low calorie ice cream that was melting. I actually had a psychotic break because I thought I could handle four mics. So yeah, ultimately we ended up with one (26:22): mic and I am, you're so good because you zero in on people's insecurity. Speaker 1 (26:27): That's what, you're kind of like Howard Stern. You could sense it. I wanted it to be four mics and you could, yeah. It's good for people to hear this. See this, I hope. Speaker 2 (26:37): You could tell because you're such a pro. I really hope it's not obvious. I was desperately wanting to do four mics on that special. Speaker 1 (26:43): You know what? Could you tell? Be honest with me. I don't think most people would be able to tell. Speaker 2 (26:48): But you fucking guys could. Speaker 1 (26:49): I'm a student of this stuff. Speaker 2 (26:51): You're the student of the game. Speaker 1 (26:52): I know that about you. We can see you scooching and thinking almost like you had it there in the wings. Right, right, right. Like you're telling the crew. It's micro-expressions. It's micro-expressions. It's a minuscule glance. It's an infinitesimally small glance. You see my eyes dart over. Fuck. Speaker 3 (27:10): And it's like, oh, he was just going to switch for this sweet one line. Speaker 2 (27:14): Oh, you're just about to talk about his trauma with Matt Johnson. Speaker 1 (27:16): Fuck! Speaker 2 (27:17): I can't believe people can tell that. Speaker 1 (27:20): I don't think most people will tell. Speaker 3 (27:22): Honestly, most of the people that are going to be watching this thing, I probably want someone with their smoking as well. Because I think they'll be actually enjoying it in a bit of an altered state. Speaker 1 (27:32): And I think it's almost come back around. We're doing one now is so... That's subversive. Yes, exactly. It's so nothing. It's such a nothing choice that it actually is a huge choice. I don't need that shit. You know what I mean? I don't need that shit. Speaker 3 (27:47): Did you do any clowning? Speaker 2 (27:48): I'm trying to get into clowning. It's just the joke writing is too hard for me. The barrier for entry is too intense, I find, with clowning. And so they will certainly not let just a girl that's a graphic designer in with no talent whatsoever. Definitely not. They won't just let a... clearly divorced man trying to fuck those (28:11): girls in, that's for sure. Wouldn't be allowed in the class. Speaker 1 (28:15): Wouldn't be allowed to teach the class. Wouldn't be allowed to teach the class, I'll tell you that much. Wouldn't be allowed to open his old school just in his apartment. Right. You don't let them do that. You would not be able to do any of that stuff. Speaker 2 (28:27): And so I tried and I was just like, yeah, it was just a little too tough. I'm hoping if the special goes well enough and the charts on Netflix, you know, maybe I'll get into a little clowning. A little bit of like, you know, making my, you know, not saying anything, but kind of falling down. I mean, look, classic stuff, right? Falling down. Hitting someone in the nuts. Speaker 1 (28:49): Big mallet. showing your cock, but it's a joke. And it's not a joke. It's a joke. We're joking around. Speaker 3 (28:58): It's just like, it's a commentary. Speaker 2 (29:00): On if someone would show their cock. It's like, what if improv was even shittier? You know what I mean? Speaker 1 (29:07): You know what the problem with improv is? Speaker 2 (29:08): Too much structure. Speaker 1 (29:10): You know? Speaker 2 (29:11): Too many clear ideas. Too many clear ideas and too many people that are good at comedy. And so what if we just kind of outdid that? And so I am, fingers crossed, this goes well. Speaker 3 (29:24): I hope that happens for you. I've got a feeling it will. Speaker 1 (29:26): Thank you. Because I want to read an article about you. Speaker 2 (29:29): Right. Speaker 1 (29:29): You know what I mean? Speaker 2 (29:30): Absolutely. Speaker 1 (29:30): You're doing all this stuff. You're doing movies. You have all the podcasts. You're doing this special. When are you going to have someone write an article? When's the article coming? Yeah. Yeah. Well, that is. People are asking. Speaker 2 (29:42): It is coming because part of this, and I will say, I think a really, if I have an advice to young people trying to get into this business. Speaker 1 (29:50): Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker 2 (29:50): Right now, I would say sell out to the woke moms. because once I did that everything was just like easy and people are asking me you know now people for some reason again they're writing articles and they're asking me about politics. Speaker 1 (30:04): And you don't have to do it all the time I just want to point out you can 90% of the time say stuff that's like not like that at all but then the rest of the time be like but actually this now you're one of those guys I. Speaker 3 (30:15): Am one of those and it literally is just it's it can be all squirting and come and then you just go like universal healthcare women. Speaker 1 (30:24): Yes, yes, yes. And people go like, holy fucking shit. Speaker 2 (30:28): And it's kind of a perfect blanket for, you know, all the horrific skeletons. Speaker 1 (30:33): Oh, yes, that's right. That's what the clipping is for. The clipping, yeah. Taking out the stuff before and after that. You don't need the context. Speaker 2 (30:39): You want people to interact with your art. completely out of context because they can't see the horrifically racist thing you said or alluded to at least alluded alluded please because at least you know i know not to say this stuff i used to think i don't think it anymore it was implanted it was implanted right and that was that was not my fault and now ever since. Speaker 1 (30:58): Kind of it's giving an outlet for young men to be racist in a different way in a slightly different way just in a way where they're like kind of knowing it's racist. Speaker 3 (31:09): And that makes it just go away. Speaker 1 (31:11): You know what I mean? You just cram it down. Well, let me ask you this. Speaker 2 (31:13): Do you want that type of racist or do you want the old-fashioned type? Speaker 1 (31:17): That guy's probably worse. That guy's worse. We've got a bunch of steam in a pipe. That's right. We've got to let it out. Accents. Speaker 2 (31:26): Accents among friends. But anyway, that's no more of that anymore. Speaker 1 (31:31): No more of that. Speaker 3 (31:33): Just to ask and not even this about you. Were you actually kidding? Speaker 1 (31:37): Right. Speaker 2 (31:38): Well, that's the nice thing. I'm always, whenever I get in trouble or something, I'm just like, I was actually kidding. Speaker 3 (31:43): Like one thing that's been so great about doing this show is a lot of the time we're kidding. Speaker 1 (31:46): Yeah. Speaker 2 (31:47): Whenever anybody gets mad, I'm actually kidding. Speaker 1 (31:49): And we're playing characters. I'm a character. Yes. Speaker 3 (31:52): And so like, when I gave Matt Johnson a pass for hitting on a piece of I'm kidding. Speaker 2 (31:59): I didn't say hitting. Speaker 1 (32:00): I actually think that's bad. And when it does come out, we all knew. Right. When it came out, I always had a bad feeling. We tried to tell him. We tried to tell you. Speaker 2 (32:09): Well, I always had a bad feeling is when it comes out. Speaker 1 (32:11): Oh, yeah. I never thought he was funny. I mean, I just didn't. Yeah, absolutely not. It's neither here nor there. Speaker 3 (32:21): He didn't make me laugh. Right. Speaker 1 (32:23): That doesn't even matter right now. Other people will be laughing, and sometimes I. Speaker 3 (32:27): Would like, laugh along to fit in. But it was like, I actually didn't think it was funny. Speaker 2 (32:31): Even at the time, I thought it wasn't funny. Speaker 1 (32:33): I was like, am I missing something? No, everyone else was. Everybody else was. Everyone else was missing something. I was the only one who could see it. Yeah. Speaker 3 (32:40): And I didn't specifically see it. Right. Speaker 1 (32:43): But something was off. Speaker 2 (32:44): Something was off. And then when kind of culture swings back and nobody's even mad at him anymore, actually, like, I thought he was funny the whole time. Speaker 1 (32:50): I thought he was talented. Oh, sure. And he was talented, but it's about personality. He had a personality problem. Speaker 3 (32:55): You do not build a fan base like that, of which I count myself as a member. Speaker 1 (32:59): Without talent. Right, right, right. Speaker 2 (33:01): No, and that's the delicate dance. And that's what I'm, it's a really nice tightrope you have to walk on. And, you know, at the end of the day, As long as you just do like somebody tell, basically what happens is I wake up now, I get an email and they're like, here are your talking points for the day. Speaker 1 (33:17): Yeah. Speaker 2 (33:17): And so that's kind of where we're at right now. I'm excited to see what happens next, but right now. Speaker 1 (33:22): Yeah. Speaker 2 (33:23): Just kind of, it's bad. That kind of stuff is bad. Speaker 1 (33:24): What are we knocking off today? What TPs are we, uh, top of the list? Speaker 2 (33:29): Well, today, hold on. Speaker 1 (33:31): You gotta look. Um, Oh, it says the sandwich arrives at 2.45. Sandwich arrives, yeah. Speaker 3 (33:36): 2.45. Speaker 1 (33:36): Okay, and what are we looking at here? Kind of nice timing there. Speaker 2 (33:40): Yeah, they're saying like, oh, oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. Talking points do not under any circumstances mention Matt Johnson. Speaker 1 (33:48): Don't mention him at all, huh? Not at all. It must be okay. Can we bleep it out? Can we bleep it out? Speaker 2 (33:54): Fuck, is the article coming out? Speaker 1 (33:55): They must have asked for comment. Oh, okay. So they know that it's coming out. Speaker 2 (33:59): And this is fucked up because the plan was, the special comes out, we get a week of, oh, this is good. My Johnson's a good, whoa, look at this. Speaker 1 (34:06): This visionary director. And then it's that extra attention that brings the story to light. People start telling. Speaker 2 (34:12): And so now I'm kind of panicking because the special's bad. Speaker 1 (34:15): We were really just working. Speaker 2 (34:16): On, we were just trying to use, you know, public opinion and play with it to mask how shitty my joke writing was. Speaker 1 (34:24): And in what ways did he bring too much of his sensibility to it? Speaker 2 (34:28): Well, again, he really wanted me to wear gray sweatpants while I was doing it. Speaker 1 (34:31): Wow. Speaker 2 (34:32): And he wanted me to just like use just a word with four syllables for no real reason. Speaker 1 (34:37): Yeah. Speaker 2 (34:37): He really wanted me to kind of shoehorn that into, like he wanted longer setups is what he wanted. And he wanted to quote Gilgamesh. Speaker 1 (34:45): I'm actually a cool dude to hang out with. Oh, I'm accidentally smart. But I know stuff. I'm accidentally really smart. Ah, shit. It leaked out again. Let me put that back in. I'm goofing. I'm stupid. No, I'm not. No, I'm actually smart. I'm actually smart. Speaker 2 (35:00): Sucks. Speaker 1 (35:01): Hollywood Handbook. Speaker 3 (35:03): Hollywood Handbook. Speaker 2 (35:11): Yeah, so if we could go back and cut all that stuff, that'd be awesome. Speaker 1 (35:15): Can we just cut just that? Speaker 2 (35:17): And actually, they said don't talk about Tony the movie at all. Speaker 1 (35:19): Don't talk about Tony the movie? What? Fuck, dude. Can we cut that stuff? Speaker 2 (35:23): We still have plenty, right? Speaker 1 (35:25): I guess. We didn't do tires. Do you want to do some tire stuff? Yeah, actually, that's back. That's actually back. That's back. Speaker 2 (35:32): They were like, none of the art stuff. Now, actually, yeah, it's fine now. Tires is fine. Yeah, apparently, like, yeah. People can admit Shane's funny now. Enough time has passed, they said. Speaker 1 (35:43): I think they have to. You have to, even if you don't like it. I think you actually have to. He was always funny to me. He was always funny to me as well. Absolutely. So that's the secret. To do one of each at any given time. You gotta do one of each. So when they're switching on and off, (36:06): then you got, you know, you got the other one. Absolutely. That's a big thing. Speaker 2 (36:09): You have to code switch to different types of white people. It used to be just be white. Speaker 1 (36:14): You're fine. Yes. Speaker 2 (36:15): Now there's two flavors in the media. Speaker 1 (36:17): Oh yeah. Speaker 2 (36:17): And so, and kind of Greek is kind of perfect. Speaker 1 (36:20): Because you could go either way. Totally. And that's the Gorgos. We've got no idea what's going on there. He could be up to all kinds of crazy crap. Speaker 2 (36:30): Nothing would surprise me, good or bad. And look, we've said it a couple times, but I really do want what that guy smokes. Speaker 1 (36:40): Yeah. Speaker 2 (36:41): But in a different way, but not too much, but not enough, but not in like a, yeah, not in like a fun, the dink type. Speaker 1 (36:48): Of way, like, you know, what the fuck type of way, you know? Yeah. Speaker 2 (36:52): It would make me interesting, I think. Speaker 1 (36:55): Yeah. It would make me say things if I, if I were able to smoke some of that stuff. Speaker 3 (37:00): Yeah. Speaker 1 (37:00): I think it would make me very interesting to talk. I think so. You know, I've never heard him speak before necessarily, but I'll bet it's so good. It's good. Speaker 3 (37:10): I bet it would be very engaging and have me going, huh? Speaker 1 (37:15): Like, huh? Not even like, huh? Like I never saw it that way. Like, huh? I don't think I can see it that way. People would want to work with me. Speaker 2 (37:25): Yes, absolutely. Speaker 1 (37:26): I agree with that. And I need to smoke some of that. You do need to smoke some of that. You need to smoke some of that. That. Speaker 3 (37:32): has been sort of the holy grail for me in my career. Right, right. Speaker 2 (37:37): People really knocking down your door, wanting to work with me. Speaker 1 (37:40): Not yet. And then again. And then after that. Round two would be. Round two, yeah, yeah. Speaker 3 (37:46): Yeah. Speaker 1 (37:46): I haven't really been even able to ask for round two. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Speaker 2 (37:52): Not it being the kind of thing where it's like, fuck, I mean, he is good, but. Speaker 1 (37:56): We want him in the room. You know what I mean? Speaker 2 (37:58): Like, you know, not that not being what's going on. Speaker 1 (38:01): Yes. You know what I mean? Speaker 2 (38:02): That would be nice if you smoked some of that. Speaker 1 (38:04): Yes. You know, I smoked a little of that. Quite a bit of that. That's interesting. Speaker 3 (38:13): Yeah. Speaker 1 (38:14): I love that. Take the extra large. Oh, the big spliff. With the spliff of that. The big spliff. With the big fat cone. Oh yeah. Speaker 2 (38:23): See, my strategy has always been sort of like, actually the opposite, which is kind of don't really bring much to the table, but be kind of fun. Buy a Nintendo Switch and bring it to set. Speaker 1 (38:34): Yeah. Speaker 2 (38:35): And you know what I mean? Just kind of hang out. And it's like, be fun enough on set that they kind of let you gloss over the fact that you don't really know your lines and that. Speaker 3 (38:44): When you were talking about code switching earlier, you were really talking about Nintendo Switch. Speaker 1 (38:49): I was talking about the Nintendo code. Was Jesse interested in the Switch? Yeah. He loved the Switch. Really? He was intrigued by it. Speaker 2 (38:59): He was intrigued. It was kind of like, I did bring a Switch to Begonia. Yeah, I was setting up shop. In that basement where they were. Speaker 1 (39:06): Was that a toy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He kind of looked over. Kind of like a cat. He would circle around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it looks cool. Speaker 3 (39:14): Uh-huh. Speaker 1 (39:14): Oh, it looks cool. You play with the toy or? Okay. And yeah, and that basement. I feel like I'd be able to introduce so much stuff to him. You know what I mean? Sure. Like, you covered video games. I killed it. he'd ever really known about video games before somehow. Speaker 3 (39:33): Right. Speaker 1 (39:33): So now it's that. Yeah. I feel like. Yeah. I don't, yeah. Yeah. Maybe, like, not football, because he, like. Friday Night Lights. Yeah, he does football. Yeah, he had to see it there. Speaker 3 (39:45): Mm-hmm. Speaker 2 (39:45): Mm-hmm. Speaker 3 (39:46): But I think there's some other games that would be new. I think I could probably bring in some pretty standard foods that he'd be surprised to see. Speaker 1 (39:52): Yes, that's right. Yes, that's right. Food from different places. Right, right, right, right, right. Speaker 2 (39:57): Yeah, I mean, I couldn't, you know, like I said, I didn't, he was intrigued by it, but he never picked up the controller. Speaker 1 (40:02): Is that like a small piece of corn? Yeah, yeah. This is a potato, but it's like a stick. Oh, there's a French fry. Yeah. Mine was baby corn. So I agree. He's seen like the basic version of a lot of different foods. It's the kind of thing where he knows the big version. He knows the big version. Speaker 2 (40:21): It's really shrinking down foods that throws him for a loop. Speaker 1 (40:24): He's had... whole fruits and vegetables. A full potato and a full corn? No problem. That's old hat. Anything that's at the center of like a Thanksgiving centerpiece. A cornucopia. Speaker 2 (40:34): He does really bad with cornucopia. Famously, center of cornucopia, potatoes and corn. That's kind of all that's in there. And that's why he's so good. Speaker 1 (40:44): He has no distraction. Speaker 2 (40:45): Well, the thing is, the part of his brain that we all use for miniature food identification, he has for method acting. And it was one of those things. Speaker 1 (40:56): And yeah, the whole time he was scared of me on set. Because you had diddled him. He treated me like I diddled him. Speaker 2 (41:03): And I kind of got into character and I was like, you know, kind of chasing him around. No one's going to believe you, that kind of stuff. I'm going to kill your family if you say anything, you know, that kind of thing. And he, you know, and I respected that because he stayed in character. Speaker 1 (41:16): He was scared of me. And I'm sure it was because of the character thing. He disliked it. Yeah. Oh, he hated it. Yeah. Speaker 2 (41:21): And the weird thing was he did stop. Speaker 1 (41:24): He started. Speaker 2 (41:24): Like, halfway through, he was calling me Stavros instead of Casey. And he was kind of also, like, talking to every... He was kind of, like, making it known how he felt to sort of the producers and, like, the. Speaker 1 (41:35): I bet his character. Speaker 3 (41:37): Who was sort of radicalized by online information. Speaker 1 (41:40): Yeah. Had seen some clips. Speaker 2 (41:42): Oh. Yes. Oh, that's so, so actually what happened is it was levels to it where the character remembered he was in a movie. Speaker 1 (41:51): Yeah. Cause the, not Jesse, Jesse's not familiar with my work. Speaker 3 (41:54): No. Speaker 2 (41:54): The character he played, Huge calm down guy. Wait a second. That's Nick Mullins. Laugh track is what he would have said that character and that took him out of the, and that, but that's how you get so much nuance and depth and performance. Cause then Jesse has to come back and pilot the ship. He's like, whoa, that's how (42:15): good Jesse is. He loses himself so much in the character that the character can re become sentient and realize he's in a movie. Speaker 1 (42:22): And do you want to take a second to shout out Adam as well? I don't want a situation where you're only talking about what, you know. Speaker 2 (42:28): So Jesse's character would have said, oh, that's McMullin's laugh track. Where's the bug that eats dust? He would have also said that. That kind of, a guy who got molested and thinks aliens are real definitely hates both me and Adam. And wants Nick to be like his best friend and (42:48): dad at the same time. Speaker 1 (42:49): Yeah. I do. Speaker 2 (42:50): There is a Begonia sequel where Jesse wakes up and it's like, cause his AirPods died in the episode of come down. He was listening to about aliens. And this whole thing was a dream he was having. And then he has to go just to work at the Amazon factory and then get on Reddit and be like, he's a fat fucking piece of shit. And that's why they (43:10): actually cast me is that he saw that in a vision. Yorgos is actually really plugged in to podcasting. So it actually is you in- It's me as a character. Speaker 1 (43:19): But in a dream state where it's like, it's you but not you. Yes, yes, yes. The whole movie is a countdown audience number three. That tracks so well for me. Everything falls into place. The casting itself. The casting really does. (43:42): That's actually a little on the nose. Because the rest of it works anyway. Right. Speaker 2 (43:47): You don't actually need me at all. You could argue the character is kind of weird and superfluous. But because Yorgos loved... He loved just 2016 podcast. Speaker 1 (43:58): It wasn't just Comptown. Speaker 2 (43:59): Big Doughboys guy. Speaker 1 (44:01): Okay. Speaker 2 (44:01): Big, pardon my take, you wouldn't think so. Speaker 1 (44:03): Wow. Interesting. Anything that started in 2016, weirdly he's like, he just gets, you know, obsessed with that kind of stuff. You were just five years ahead of it. Speaker 2 (44:17): You guys could have been, one of you could have been the cop that molested Jesse if you were just a little later on it. Speaker 3 (44:23): Ugh. Speaker 1 (44:24): What other podcast 2016? Blank check? I don't think people believe that. Blank check, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think so. I just don't think they'd buy it. Speaker 2 (44:30): Because you don't have that energy. Speaker 1 (44:31): Well, they just know I never pay for it. Bye.
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