Dom & The Scuzzman, Our AI Friend Friends
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The Boys bring in DOMINIC DIERKES and THE SCUZZMAN to find out what's new and different with them. Turns out it's simultaneously a lot and nothing at all.
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Speaker 1 (00:06): You look different. I just want to speak that right away. You look great. Speaker 2 (00:14): Oh, thanks. Speaker 1 (00:16): Okay, you sound the same. Speaker 3 (00:19): I want to pick up clues as I go about what's going on with you because, I don't know, maybe, Sean, you feel differently. Speaker 1 (00:28): We've had so much going on. We're in a new studio. Speaker 2 (00:32): I know. Speaker 1 (00:33): We have a completely new network. And so what has been going on with you guys? I'm so curious. I'm so interested to hear. Speaker 3 (00:40): It's Dom and the Scuzzman. Speaker 1 (00:41): I want to know. Speaker 4 (00:43): When we go through a lot of changes and we grow as we have been doing on our side, and we don't see you guys every day anymore. Speaker 5 (00:53): And we used to and we don't. And we don't always know. And you do lose track of, oh, God, I've been so caught up in my own bullshit and my own fucking garbage. Speaker 4 (01:05): My stupid life that I think is so important when it's like, you know what really matters? Speaker 5 (01:11): What's the scuzz man been doing? And Dom's here as well. Speaker 6 (01:15): Yeah, I'm here, too, to help talk about what the Scuzzman's been doing, because in a lot of ways, I'm always looped into it, you know? Speaker 1 (01:20): You always have your projects together. Speaker 2 (01:23): Yeah. Speaker 3 (01:24): This is such an abiding partnership, and it's so special to see. That the two of you have made it this far? Speaker 6 (01:32): I don't even know how many years we've been working together, Scuzzman, because I know you don't measure time the way a lot of us do. Speaker 2 (01:37): No, no. I go off the Kelvin scale, which is like. Speaker 1 (01:42): That is very different. Speaker 2 (01:44): Wow. Speaker 6 (01:45): Why do most people use that to measure heat? Speaker 1 (01:46): You really portrayed that exactly. Speaker 3 (01:49): Right. That is definitely not how most people do time. Speaker 2 (01:53): And that's sort of my whole thing is that I've just been living my Kelvin life. And that's why you get, you see what you see, you know. Speaker 1 (02:02): It makes sense a little bit. Speaker 2 (02:05): Well, it is a lot of sense. Speaker 5 (02:08): That's why you see what you see. Speaker 4 (02:10): Yeah. Speaker 3 (02:10): A beach guy would maybe measure the time based on the temperature. Speaker 2 (02:16): Right. Speaker 1 (02:16): Like, is it time to go. Speaker 2 (02:19): To the beach? Let me check my Kelvin. Speaker 4 (02:21): Mm-hmm. Speaker 2 (02:22): And the answer is always. Speaker 1 (02:24): Yeah. Speaker 2 (02:25): It's always time to go. Speaker 1 (02:26): Tell me. I want to know a lot more about the Kelvin scale. Tell me about. exactly how it works. Speaker 6 (02:34): All right like if we want to meet up at a specific time so it okay i'll even. Speaker 3 (02:39): Just go with like the normal one you know just like the temperature based version i'm curious about that we can get into the time thing after but. Speaker 2 (02:46): The temperature based one yes okay that you do uh you take celsius and you times it by nine fifths and add 32 and then you get. Speaker 1 (02:57): Then you get Fahrenheit. Speaker 2 (03:00): Now it's time to do one more conversion, I think. Speaker 4 (03:03): That's gotten us to Fahrenheit, and now we're really close to having a baseline. Speaker 2 (03:08): To find Kelvin. Speaker 6 (03:09): Can we be impressed that the Scuzzman knew how to convert to Fahrenheit? Speaker 2 (03:13): That's pretty cool. Speaker 4 (03:14): Can we take a minute to actually acknowledge that. Speaker 5 (03:18): That formula does do something? Speaker 2 (03:23): It's part of getting to Kelvin. And then you just kind of, well, you just kind of. Speaker 5 (03:28): You can't go straight from Celsius to Kelvin, is that right? Speaker 2 (03:31): No, no, no, no, no. You got to go to Fahrenheit. Speaker 4 (03:33): It felt like an extra step to me, but I don't use this scale, so I don't know. Speaker 2 (03:39): But this is just for temperature. Yeah, we're only talking temperature right now. But you got to do that first in order to get to time, and then it'll get to how long we've been working together, right? Speaker 6 (03:49): Absolutely, which I guess is where we started. Okay, so you add. Speaker 4 (03:54): I just got a mind like a fucking steel trap. I didn't even remember that was the question that we were going on. Speaker 1 (03:59): Something is really different. He's changed. Speaker 5 (04:02): Something has changed. I am not used to him keeping track of the questions like this. Speaker 6 (04:06): There's a level of focus that the Scuzzman has been bringing to him. Speaker 1 (04:09): And I did think he sounded the same, but now he sounds different too. Speaker 5 (04:12): Yeah. Speaker 4 (04:13): Yeah. Speaker 6 (04:14): It's the longer you talk to him, the more you realize there's a little more behind the eyes with the scuzz man. Speaker 2 (04:18): There's a little more, you know. I got glasses. Speaker 1 (04:21): You have glasses. That's a big difference. Which is in front of the eyes. Speaker 2 (04:24): But, you know. Speaker 4 (04:25): Yeah. Speaker 2 (04:25): Yeah, I found out they're in front. Speaker 1 (04:28): Of the eyes. Speaker 3 (04:31): That was the issue with whether or not you get caught. Look, if I thought glasses went behind my eyes, I wouldn't get them either. Speaker 2 (04:38): It's madness. Speaker 5 (04:39): I'd be so resistant. Speaker 2 (04:40): Yeah. Speaker 4 (04:40): I would be so resistant to that. They were like, I was having trouble reading fine print. Like, I can't really see the menu items in a restaurant anymore if it's dim. And they go, okay, well, we'll just put some glass behind your eyes. Speaker 1 (04:54): He's implanted in your head. Speaker 2 (04:56): I'll have to squint. Yeah. But Scuzzman kind of pieced it together. Well, that's what the optometrist was telling me. He was like, you have to put them behind your eyes. And I was like, ha ha. All right. So I tried that. Speaker 1 (05:09): You did try it. Speaker 2 (05:10): It didn't work. Yeah. Yeah. They had me do these things that you put on your eyes. I don't know what they're called. And then I got these. Speaker 6 (05:20): And the vision, the fact that you can see clearly has really helped in our collaboration. Speaker 2 (05:26): I was just looking at myself and I was like, wow, I'm a real mess. I look like a piece of shit. And I need to fucking ship up or shape out. Speaker 4 (05:37): Wait, wait, wait. Speaker 5 (05:37): Hang on, hang on. Speaker 4 (05:38): I don't want to hear you talk about my friend the Scuzzman that way. Speaker 2 (05:42): Even if you are the Scuzzman. Speaker 4 (05:43): I'm happy you've made some positive changes. but I don't think that you were a piece of shit. Speaker 5 (05:49): You know what I think you were? A little lost. Speaker 1 (05:52): A little bit. Speaker 3 (05:53): So your whole situation, as I remember it, you were living in a bus on the beach. You guys had some creative projects that you were working on over that time or temperature or whatever. And it seems like now the problem was that you couldn't see it. And now (06:15): you have been able to evaluate your situation because you have glasses. Speaker 2 (06:19): Yeah. Speaker 1 (06:20): And you've made changes. Speaker 6 (06:21): A lot of the Scuzzman's behavior that I was finding challenging in our writing process, I thought was like a comprehension thing. It was really a vision problem. Like he just wasn't seeing what I was talking about. Speaker 1 (06:32): Right. Speaker 6 (06:33): And he was saying that, but I didn't realize he meant literal. Like I thought it was more of a conceptual, like, I don't know what you mean. But he was saying, I can't see anything. Speaker 2 (06:41): I couldn't see. I had those sunglasses on, man. And I was just like, oh, I don't need these. These are just not serving me, you know? So I took them off and was like, wow, I can't really see. And I had to get my vision checked. And, you know, hey, I moved off the bus. Well, I still have the bus. Speaker 1 (07:04): Okay. Speaker 2 (07:04): It's still there. Speaker 5 (07:05): Okay, I was nervous. Speaker 2 (07:06): Yeah, yeah. Because I can't go, I can't leave the bus, you know. That's the Scuzz's, that's my second home now. Speaker 4 (07:14): I think you're in a situation, too, where the bus is worth more to you than you could ever get for it on the open market. Speaker 2 (07:20): Right. Oh, yeah. Speaker 6 (07:21): When you did try to list it, you listed it as priceless. Speaker 2 (07:24): Yeah. Speaker 6 (07:25): When you tried to sell it, and I don't think anyone else sees it that way. Speaker 5 (07:28): You wanted them to value the memories as part of this. Right. Part of the appraisal. Speaker 2 (07:34): Right. And I told that stupid real estate agent that. Speaker 3 (07:38): You got a real estate agent to sell your bus. Speaker 6 (07:42): Their first comment was, this is not real estate. That's what they said. And you put your finger right in that guy's chest. Speaker 5 (07:48): That's what makes Guzman angry here. Speaker 2 (07:51): Yeah. I said, hey, don't fucking talk to me like that. You're fired. Speaker 6 (07:56): And at this point, yes, you had your glasses, you were seeing clearly, so you were able to really, when you put your finger in his chest, it was actually there. Speaker 2 (08:02): Yeah, and I got so angry. I get more angry, too, when I, now that I can see. Speaker 1 (08:07): Now that you can see. Speaker 6 (08:08): Yeah, the swings, the emotional swirls are, yeah, he can read the news now. Speaker 2 (08:13): Yeah, it's heavy. He kind of knows what's happening. Much more volatile, huh? Speaker 6 (08:15): Yeah, which has been, you know, something I've had to weather as his writing partner, producing partner. Speaker 2 (08:21): I mean, how would you, any other. Speaker 6 (08:22): titles you would put on it i know i know co-creators out because i don't you create i agree. Speaker 2 (08:27): Yeah yeah you're you're the no creator. Speaker 6 (08:31): Yeah i'm sorry i'm the no creator not the co-creator do. Speaker 1 (08:35): You want to move this down a little bit. Speaker 2 (08:40): Sorry again it's perfect it's just sometimes you gotta like i gotta. Speaker 6 (08:49): Sometimes you gotta but we've been working on. Speaker 4 (08:52): Something I always forget about the scuzz man is I'm so used to when I'm when I hear someone halfway through a sentence just assuming that it will be finished their intention is actually to complete the thought and it's such a unique style of communication you have scuzz man and I really commend you for like challenging our preconceived (09:16): notions of what communication and what conversation is. Speaker 3 (09:20): I had overcorrected a bit based on the glasses and like this sort of whole new thing. So I'm sitting here being like the end of the sentence is coming. That's how much I, I, I see it like transformed here, but it's comforting in a way that it didn't happen. Speaker 1 (09:34): Right. Like that, that he, that he is still in there. Speaker 2 (09:38): Predicates. Right. Like that's kind of your thing. No, no, no. I know. I, again, I'm just all about catch a predicate. I'm all about the conversions, you know, and all like that. I can't do predicates or prepositions or anything like that. No, none of the P. And that's kind of like all (09:59): my writing. It's all math. I'm a math guy. Speaker 1 (10:02): No, it's all the P's are out. Speaker 5 (10:03): Pronunciation, punctuation, all that stuff is just out the window. Speaker 6 (10:07): Which in the age of AI has been very useful. Because now you have the glasses, you've been seeing a lot of trends coming. You were really into AI before a lot of people were even talking about it. Speaker 4 (10:18): Yeah. Speaker 2 (10:19): Oh, yeah. I had an AI on the bus. Speaker 1 (10:22): You had an AI on there? Speaker 4 (10:23): Uh-huh. Speaker 5 (10:24): You had an AI on the bus. Speaker 4 (10:25): Yeah. Speaker 2 (10:26): Yeah. It was tough to get going. Speaker 6 (10:28): I mean, I remember you had me kind of trying to prompt it and code it, and then eventually you were like, fuck this AI thing, man. Speaker 2 (10:35): Prompt me. Speaker 4 (10:36): Yeah. Speaker 2 (10:36): Teach me. Speaker 1 (10:37): Yeah. Speaker 2 (10:38): Tell me what's going on. Speaker 4 (10:39): We talk about this on the show, the wubby subby, you know, the tiny imperfections that prove something was made by a human, which in. Speaker 5 (10:47): This world of AI, as AI, and believe me, it can do amazing things. Speaker 2 (10:51): Oh God. Speaker 4 (10:52): I mean, it can make perfect images, but I think that perfection is, That lack of humanity actually will make people crave even more the little idiosyncrasies that show you that human hands touched this project. And I think the scuzz man is possibly ground zero for showcasing those imperfections. Speaker 3 (11:14): A sort of analog version of an AI that plugs into the cigarette lighter, maybe, or is your generator working? Speaker 2 (11:21): Yeah. Speaker 1 (11:22): Okay. Speaker 2 (11:23): Yeah, my generator is a cigarette lighter. Speaker 3 (11:26): And I guess that's where generative AI comes from, is you hook up an analog machine to a gas-powered generator. Speaker 6 (11:34): That we have moved outside the bus now. The gas-powered generator is outside the bus. Speaker 2 (11:38): It was inside the bus for a while. And we were so sleepy. Oh, yeah. But, I mean, I was getting real toasty off those fooms. Speaker 1 (11:46): You know? Oh, the fooms. The fooms. Oh, the fooms. Speaker 2 (11:49): The fooms. Speaker 5 (11:50): The fooms. Speaker 6 (11:53): And eventually we realized the fooms were doing more than just heating us. They were kind of, you know, it was making us sleepy in a bad way. Speaker 2 (12:00): That's what I tried. Speaker 5 (12:01): Foom's just such a perfect example. AI would never. Speaker 1 (12:04): No. Speaker 2 (12:05): No. Speaker 5 (12:05): It would never. Speaker 1 (12:06): No. Speaker 6 (12:07): The perfection would, yeah. The rough edges is what we're going for. Speaker 2 (12:12): Oh my God. Speaker 3 (12:13): So the AI is outside the bus. The bus is still on the beach. I mean, I want to know the whole situation. You said it's your second home, which means that Right. It at least implies that you do have a first home. Speaker 2 (12:25): Yeah. Speaker 3 (12:26): And you go to the boss sometimes to check in on it. Like, what's your situation right now? Speaker 2 (12:31): You know, clear my head or, you know, talk to the AI. Speaker 4 (12:36): Mm-hmm. Speaker 5 (12:38): Oh, so the AI's still on the bus. Speaker 1 (12:40): Is it chained up outside? Speaker 2 (12:41): Yeah, it's chained up outside. Speaker 6 (12:44): We got a little scared of it being unleashed, so we put a lot of physical kind of bondage type stuff on the AI. Which you had already. Speaker 2 (12:53): We definitely had that stuff, yeah. Speaker 6 (12:55): Finally, we could. Speaker 2 (12:58): Have a different use for that stuff. Yeah. Speaker 1 (13:01): I appreciate it. Speaker 2 (13:01): Yeah. Speaker 5 (13:02): What's all this stuff for? Ah, that's to keep the AI. Speaker 6 (13:06): Uh, handcuffed and, uh, put them quick, put that mask on the AI. Speaker 2 (13:10): That's what it's for. You know? Speaker 6 (13:11): Yeah. Speaker 2 (13:11): There's a lot of books on it. Speaker 1 (13:13): And, um, On what? Speaker 2 (13:15): The AI. Speaker 1 (13:16): Okay. Yeah. You mean you put a bunch of books on top of it? Mm-hmm. Speaker 2 (13:22): Okay. Speaker 5 (13:22): You stacked books up. Speaker 2 (13:23): Oh, man. Speaker 4 (13:24): And that's actually going to help its large language model sort. Speaker 5 (13:27): Of ingest even more material. Speaker 1 (13:31): Isn't that how it works? Speaker 5 (13:31): And, of course, you consider books to be a form of bondage. Speaker 6 (13:35): Yeah, words kind of bond us to their meaning. Speaker 4 (13:38): That we are, in fact, chained up by these words that tell you, oh, you have to read this. You have to sort of look at it just this way or say it just this way. Speaker 5 (13:48): It's not fume, essentially, that Luke is saying to you. And you're saying, why not? Speaker 2 (13:52): Yeah, right. Speaker 1 (13:53): Is it shaped in a certain way? How is it constructed? I'd love to picture the AI. Yeah, if I can picture what it looks like. Speaker 6 (14:01): Well, it started with a laptop, and then we kind of built it out from there a little bit. Speaker 1 (14:05): Okay. Speaker 2 (14:05): Yeah, it's got a lot of Legos attached to the laptop, sort of kind of like. Speaker 3 (14:13): Now, a laptop, I haven't seen a laptop that has Lego attachments where the pegs would would fit the way Legos normally attach. So how are the Legos attached to this laptop? Or is the laptop itself constructed of Legos? Speaker 4 (14:31): Can I take a second here and just say, just because man, you know, working with AI is one thing, even referring to it as a laptop and having started that way is a lot of progress from when I met him, when he said, these should be called lap bottoms. Speaker 5 (14:46): I sit on this shit. Speaker 4 (14:49): And anytime someone had a laptop, he would put it underneath his couch cushion or just directly underneath his bare ass to sort of demonstrate that he did not. Speaker 1 (14:59): Want it for the computer. Things going behind. There's something about you thinking that things that are supposed to go in front go behind. Speaker 2 (15:07): Yeah, well, it's like I say, why are we going forward when we can go behind? Speaker 6 (15:11): And people expect you to say backward there. Speaker 5 (15:13): And they really do. They think they know where that sentence is going to. Speaker 3 (15:18): And that is a relationship to temperature, which does move in both directions in a way that traditional time does not. Speaker 2 (15:26): Exactly. And that's why I can just measure time a lot differently. Speaker 3 (15:33): So when it gets colder, it's like you're going backwards in time? Speaker 2 (15:38): Yeah, exactly. Speaker 1 (15:41): Wow, I'm getting a lot of exactlys. I didn't expect to be that close to it. Speaker 2 (15:48): You're just hitting the nail on the head, dude. Speaker 1 (15:50): Okay, so the laptop is. Speaker 2 (15:51): Have you been in the bus with me? Speaker 3 (15:53): I've never been in the bus with you. I've only interacted with you in this context. Speaker 6 (15:59): I would love for some other people to see the bus. It's such a burden being the only one who's really seen inside the bus very much. Because when I describe it, it's hard. And having Scuzzman describe it is even... You've slept over a couple times. Speaker 2 (16:14): Definitely, yeah, absolutely. That's been fun. Speaker 6 (16:18): Yeah, I mean, I've enjoyed that. I mean, my family's a little bit like Ferrari. Speaker 1 (16:21): The fooms, you kind of end up sleeping over every time you step inside. Speaker 6 (16:24): Yes, I will board, we'll kind of rev up the AI, and then I get so sleepy. Speaker 5 (16:29): Yeah, it's a deep sleep. Speaker 2 (16:31): It's a very deep sleep. Speaker 6 (16:33): Luckily, there's a little window cracked, so it's not the deepest sleep. Yeah, the littlest bit. Yeah, you say, how little can we crack this window? And, you know, that's a negotiation. Speaker 2 (16:43): I don't like fresh air. That's right. You want air that's been through some stuff. Yeah, let's have a lot of stuff. Speaker 5 (16:50): For a guy whose whole personality is the beach and then to be against fresh air. It's just. Speaker 6 (16:58): You want the air to have like a lived experience, you said. You want stuff in your lungs that has knowledge. Speaker 2 (17:03): Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's why I got the boss. Speaker 1 (17:06): On the beach. You got a couple too. A couple exactly. Speaker 2 (17:09): I'm not used to it. Speaker 6 (17:10): He's in a good mood. He woke up in a good place. Speaker 2 (17:12): I'm excited for my first exactly. Great mood. Yeah. Wait, has Sean gotten an exactly yet or no? Speaker 6 (17:16): Not yet, but I'm looking. Speaker 5 (17:18): Forward to hopefully spiking one. Speaker 2 (17:20): You sit there and wait, buddy. Wow. Let me hit you with an exactly. Speaker 3 (17:25): So, Skuzzman, I mean, I do want to hear more about the AI and how it works, because it does sound like you might be on to something like this. Speaker 5 (17:45): At the forefront of this technology is actually really encouraging for me. Speaker 3 (17:48): To do a homemade, potentially even like carbon-based version that like, depending on what it is that you've put together here. Speaker 6 (17:57): It's not Lego based, but it is Lego in structure I mean you were big on when we said we're gonna make an AI And you were kind of big on like it needs to be ethical you said I wanted to have my ethics. Speaker 4 (18:09): Mm-hmm. Speaker 2 (18:09): Yeah Mm-hmm. Yeah, so yeah, so basically I mean it tells you It all. Speaker 6 (18:22): A lot of the stuff we have in the bus is bolted down so that this can't happen. Just for what it's worth. I should have sent that email. But, you know, if it can move, he's going to see how much, where, you know. Speaker 2 (18:36): What did I say? The ethical AI. Speaker 6 (18:38): You said you wanted to share the Scuzzman's ethics, which you said is like. Speaker 2 (18:42): Right. Well, basically, it starts out by asking, hey, have you partied yet today? Speaker 1 (18:50): Oh, okay. Speaker 2 (18:50): So it does have. Speaker 1 (18:51): Yeah. Speaker 2 (18:51): It does... Very ethical question. It's... It does ask those ethics. It asks you ethics. Speaker 6 (19:01): It's kind of where we landed with what it does. I was hoping for some kind of ethical parameters that might constrain it. Speaker 4 (19:07): That it internally had some sort of governor of its own. It's just checking in with you a lot. Speaker 3 (19:13): And what's the readout on this? Is it just on a screen or does it speak? Does it actually have a voice that you can hear? Speaker 1 (19:20): Yeah, it speaks. Speaker 2 (19:21): It's got like a balloon sort of mouth It's all balloons. It's all balloons. Inside of the Eggo. Inside of the Eggo. Inside of the Eggo. And then the Legos are attached to the balloon Eggo waffle. Speaker 5 (19:43): Sorry, can I double back to balloon mouth? I know we all know what that is. Speaker 6 (19:47): Yeah, I feel like we delved a lot into the design. of it and maybe they want to hear some of the why some of this is here. Speaker 5 (19:53): In terms of the balloon mouth, the opening. Is where you blow into the balloon or? Speaker 1 (20:01): Well, no, it's blown up the balloon. Speaker 2 (20:04): No, I was hoping for an exactly. Speaker 5 (20:05): I was hoping for an exactly. I thought I was going to get it. Speaker 1 (20:08): Instead, you got a no. Speaker 6 (20:10): No, and kind of patronizing like, ah, almost, you know. Speaker 4 (20:15): I think of a mouth as, you know, opening and closing. A balloon mouth, I think of as a big part of it staying a balloon, it being totally sealed. Speaker 1 (20:25): We're picturing round balloons, I think. You could have two longer ones that make sort of a lip structure. Speaker 2 (20:30): Well, yes, that's what I'm wondering. Speaker 5 (20:31): Is it two different balloons that open independently. Speaker 2 (20:36): Of one another? Exactly. Speaker 4 (20:38): Oh! Speaker 2 (20:39): You found it. Speaker 1 (20:40): And that makes a voice. Speaker 3 (20:42): That actually creates a recognizable vocal tone. Speaker 5 (20:47): Does it sound like anyone in particular? Does it have an accent? Speaker 4 (20:51): No. Speaker 2 (20:52): Yeah, it's like a female voice. Speaker 1 (20:54): Okay. Speaker 2 (20:54): That was very important to me. Speaker 5 (20:56): I was going to guess that. Speaker 6 (20:58): It's so important. As soon as I said AI, I said, is it going to be a lady? Speaker 3 (21:03): And I'm wondering if this has something to do with the phrase large language model that maybe you interpreted a certain way. I did hear you talking on the lane about calling it a plus-size language model. Speaker 2 (21:17): Oh, yeah. Speaker 1 (21:18): Yeah, it is. Speaker 2 (21:19): It's a Lane Bryant model's voice. Lane Bryant. Speaker 1 (21:26): Now. Speaker 2 (21:27): Hey, you ever see them Lane Bryant ladies? Oh, you got to check them out. I will check them out. I got a bunch of catalogs. Speaker 1 (21:35): It's what is AI. So you've seen the AI. I've seen the AI. Speaker 6 (21:38): I didn't know the Lane Bryant connection was. Speaker 1 (21:40): It's what the AI looks like is a Lane Bryant model. Speaker 6 (21:42): I didn't know that's what inspired it. I mean, you've got a lot of magazines around there. Most of your furniture is stacked up magazines. Speaker 1 (21:47): So I'm mostly. Speaker 2 (21:48): Just to recap quickly. Speaker 4 (21:52): It's a balloon Lane Bryant model inside a Lego shell. Speaker 5 (21:57): Handcuffed and chained to a box. Speaker 1 (21:59): With a lot of books on top of it. Speaker 6 (22:02): Gas powered by an outdoor generator. Speaker 2 (22:05): That's right. Speaker 1 (22:05): Yeah, exactly. Exactly right. Speaker 2 (22:08): Yeah. Speaker 4 (22:08): Yeah. Speaker 6 (22:09): And it's starting to give us some responses. Yeah, and it's starting to give us some responses to our questions, to our queries. I mean, we're a little scared to hook it up to the internet. Cause we don't know what it's going to do. Speaker 2 (22:21): Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if it's going to solve the internet or, you know, or if it's gonna, you know, uh, destroy humanity. Speaker 4 (22:28): Right. Speaker 6 (22:29): You know, very polarizing outcomes. It'll either solve the internet, which is a famous kind of riddle or, or it will just end humanity. And so it, you know, flip a coin. Speaker 5 (22:41): Really high variance. Speaker 2 (22:42): Yeah. Speaker 4 (22:43): And when solving the internet may actually end humanity, they may be one in the same. Speaker 1 (22:47): Yeah, exactly. Speaker 2 (22:49): Yeah. Speaker 5 (22:49): We've been so challenged. Speaker 4 (22:51): I mean, humanity's entire journey at this point has been trying to solve the internet. Speaker 5 (22:56): Kind of figure that out. Speaker 4 (22:58): Yeah. And so once we do it, that may be the end of humanity as we know it. Speaker 6 (23:02): And that's why we keep it kind of chained up. That's why it's like not allowed to talk to other computers. Speaker 2 (23:08): On the internet or anything like that. Speaker 6 (23:10): It's only allowed to talk to us and to, you know, uh, help us in kind of creative endeavors, um, advice, stuff like that. Speaker 3 (23:19): Let me hear about that because you guys have worked on scripts and movies together in the past. Now that you have this tool at your disposal, what kinds of projects? Is this opening up new work for you? Speaker 5 (23:33): Are you using it for new creative ventures? Speaker 2 (23:35): I mean, absolutely, right? Wouldn't you say? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know that. Well, like a big thing. Speaker 1 (23:42): You guys are really on the same page. I'm loving this. Speaker 6 (23:46): Again, it's the glasses. It's like the eye contact. It does so much. Speaker 2 (23:50): It just really, really helps. Yeah, we've been doing a lot of verticals. Speaker 6 (23:56): A lot of verticals. Yeah, micro dramas are a big thing, right? People talk about that. You were hitting us really hard. I'm like, let's get into macro dramas was the big thing I heard you say. Speaker 2 (24:05): Yeah, I was like, what? Speaker 4 (24:07): Wow. Speaker 2 (24:07): I see them. You said, what's next? What's next? Maybe they make them smaller. Speaker 1 (24:11): So it's vertical, but big. Speaker 2 (24:14): Big. Speaker 1 (24:15): Okay. But tiny. But it is tiny as well. Speaker 4 (24:18): Well, the micro- The macro in Scuzzman's mind, and let's remember he measures time in Kelvin. Speaker 1 (24:24): Right. Speaker 5 (24:25): That's tinier than micro. Speaker 1 (24:27): Okay. Speaker 6 (24:27): Yeah, and that was my confusion initially is when he said, let's do macro dramas. I'm like, all right, something that's too big, too long, too something, you know, and he said- No, tiny. Yeah, he said macro in like a small way. Speaker 3 (24:40): Vertical macro dramas sounds like sort of an obelisk type presentation to me. Speaker 6 (24:46): When he presented me with that idea, I was like, all right, is the generator on? Like, well, I need to take kind of a big long walk to kind of wrap my mind around that. And then I finally did, and we've started to kind of crack open some of those. Speaker 1 (24:58): Which is that he thought it meant small. Speaker 6 (25:00): He thought it meant small, and I had to take a big long look. Speaker 1 (25:04): Hollywood Handbook. Hollywood Handbook. Speaker 5 (25:09): Can I say something, guys? Can I say something? Speaker 1 (25:12): Please. Speaker 4 (25:13): I love that you're expanding into these new areas, and I think it's wonderful, and I want you to follow what inspires you. I think it's a shame for two minds like yours to be focusing on drama when we need comedy. Speaker 5 (25:27): What about macro comedy? Tiny. Speaker 2 (25:31): Tiny macro comedies. Speaker 5 (25:34): Isn't that what we need right now? Speaker 2 (25:37): I would love that. Speaker 4 (25:38): All our finest comedy minds are out making horror movies and trying to freak us out. Speaker 5 (25:44): Bill Hader and Jordan Peele. And are the movies they're making, the shows they're making amazing? Speaker 2 (25:48): Yes. Speaker 6 (25:49): But also, can I laugh, please? It'd be nice to laugh a little bit. You know, you've been kind of flirting with the idea of getting back into comedy. Speaker 5 (26:00): You told me you were working on a joke, Scuzzman. Speaker 2 (26:02): Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. Speaker 1 (26:05): Exactly. Speaker 2 (26:06): Yeah, I was. Well, I tossed... Is it ready? Is it, I mean... I tossed it around to the AI, and I said. Speaker 5 (26:20): So good for that. Speaker 1 (26:21): Yeah. Speaker 2 (26:22): And I was like, why do they call goldfish goldfish? Speaker 1 (26:27): Okay. Speaker 6 (26:28): Like looking for the AI to fill in the punchline, maybe? Speaker 1 (26:30): Let's go through the whole conversation. You woke it up. Speaker 2 (26:33): I woke it up. Speaker 1 (26:34): It asked you if you partied today. Speaker 5 (26:36): Have you partied today? Speaker 2 (26:37): And I said, yeah, it was on my sixth or seventh 194 cocktail. You ever had those? Speaker 1 (26:47): Tell us more about 194 cocktails. Speaker 2 (26:50): They're like these Japanese vodka sodas. They're really good. Speaker 1 (26:54): Okay. Speaker 2 (26:54): They're low carb. Speaker 1 (26:55): What's Japanese about it? Speaker 2 (26:58): The writing. It says like... The language. It's just got Japanese shit on it. Speaker 4 (27:03): Yeah. Speaker 6 (27:03): Well, Japanese word. It's Japanese shit. Speaker 2 (27:06): Well, yeah. Speaker 1 (27:07): Okay. Speaker 2 (27:08): Oh, those are words. Yeah, I think so. I was always wondering about that. Okay. Speaker 1 (27:12): What are these? Speaker 2 (27:13): These aren't words. Speaker 1 (27:14): It's in a can? Yeah, it's in a can. Speaker 2 (27:18): You can get it at your local grocery. Speaker 1 (27:21): Okay. Speaker 2 (27:22): Absolutely, wherever you are. Speaker 1 (27:23): Did you do that or did you get it some other way? The way you said, like, you could do that. Speaker 2 (27:29): You want to know how I got it. Speaker 6 (27:30): You don't want to try to get it the same way Scuzzman got it. Speaker 2 (27:33): I just walk over to the jetty and see what's washed up on shore. Speaker 1 (27:38): I pick it up there. Speaker 2 (27:38): So.... Speaker 1 (27:41): These potentially washed up from Japan. Speaker 2 (27:44): Yeah. One would assume. Speaker 1 (27:46): Okay. Speaker 2 (27:46): Either heading to or from. Exactly. I had all that Japanese shit on. Speaker 3 (27:52): El Nino has the jet stream going crazy. The Japanese stuff washing. Speaker 1 (27:57): Up for you must be rolling in it right now. Speaker 2 (28:01): Oh, yeah. I got all the swords and stuff just littered. Speaker 1 (28:05): Around my bus. Speaker 2 (28:09): And these are Japanese swords. Speaker 5 (28:11): Yeah. Speaker 2 (28:11): Okay. Like katana blades. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got, like, that, like, you know, Last Samurai stuff on them. Speaker 1 (28:18): Yeah. Speaker 2 (28:19): Stuff from the Last Samurai. Speaker 1 (28:20): Yeah. Speaker 2 (28:21): Yeah, like promotional. Speaker 1 (28:22): Yes. Speaker 2 (28:24): Coming soon. Yeah, promotional shot glasses and swords. So I. Yeah, so I'm drunk, talking to the AI. What makes a goldfish a goldfish? Speaker 3 (28:41): Yeah, it asks you if you partied. You said, yeah, I'm on my six or seven, 194 cocktail. Speaker 2 (28:46): And I asked him that, and it says, because it's a fish. Speaker 1 (28:49): So the AI is male? Speaker 2 (28:52): Yeah. Speaker 1 (28:55): Okay. Speaker 2 (28:56): This version was male. Speaker 5 (28:57): You're stomping on the punchline. Speaker 2 (29:00): It was, yeah. Speaker 6 (29:01): So in looking for a punchline from the AI, you asked it, what makes a goldfish a goldfish? Speaker 1 (29:07): Yeah. Speaker 6 (29:07): And the AI kind of responded in a deep male voice. Speaker 2 (29:11): It's a fish. It's a fish. Yeah. That's my joke. Well, then I got from that. Speaker 3 (29:17): So you got it from that version of the AI. But it sounds like something. Speaker 5 (29:21): Boy, I'm nervous, huh? Speaker 1 (29:23): That it's coming for us. Speaker 5 (29:25): Yeah. Speaker 1 (29:26): Footsteps. Speaker 6 (29:27): It's kind of remarkable to have a joke where the word fish appears so many times and so few words, you know? Speaker 2 (29:34): And, and I think. Speaker 6 (29:38): I think part of it is like the AI is a little into kind of almost, almost anti-humor a little bit, like almost like just a literal, like what makes, like why is it chicken cross the road kind of thing? Speaker 4 (29:48): Knowing that it's never spoken to another computer or anything and that all of the input has basically come from Scuzzman and, I'm not surprised that it's defying sort of typical classic joke structures. Speaker 5 (30:01): In this way. Speaker 1 (30:01): And does it sort of like beach surroundings. Speaker 3 (30:05): You know, it is a sort of going off what it's seeing and smelling just like probably a lot of can smell. Speaker 2 (30:11): Uh, okay. Yeah. It's got a big old nose on it. Speaker 6 (30:14): I don't know if that functions, but it's got a big old, it's got that nose you stole from. Speaker 2 (30:18): The double dare set. Yeah. Yeah, I did. Ooh, I had to clean that thing out. Yeah. Speaker 1 (30:25): Full of a lot of stuff. Speaker 2 (30:26): Full of a lot of stuff. But I, yeah, put that nose on it. Yeah. I don't know. It's getting real fucking chatty, too. Speaker 1 (30:35): Okay. Speaker 2 (30:35): That AI. Yeah. Speaker 1 (30:36): Well, you had said that that version was male. Speaker 2 (30:40): Yeah, I don't like the male version. Speaker 5 (30:42): Okay. Speaker 6 (30:42): There's a little switch that you can kind of flip mid, you know, conversation, mid whatever to make it. Speaker 5 (30:48): It's really hard to reach, am I right? Speaker 4 (30:50): The switch? Speaker 2 (30:51): Yeah, you gotta, it's not easily accessible. Speaker 6 (30:54): You gotta kind of reach around or lean. Speaker 5 (30:57): You gotta get way inside in between the balloons to get to it. Speaker 2 (31:01): Yeah, I've lost it a couple times and, but, I find it. Speaker 6 (31:06): But we've been trying to build some jokes, you know, stuff one joke at a time. Been kind of trying to use it to create the other half. Because a lot of times, and Scuzzman's the first to admit this, he has half the idea. He's kind of got the setup and he's looking for someone else to spike it. Or he's got the spike and he needs someone else to have set it up first. Speaker 1 (31:26): Find a way to set it. Speaker 2 (31:27): Find a way to set it before he spikes. Speaker 3 (31:29): And it's often not the first half or the second half that's kind of The 25th to 75th percentile. Speaker 6 (31:36): It's 50% of it. Sometimes scattered throughout. Sometimes he just has the punctuation. Sometimes he just has the, you know, it's rarely that. But sometimes he just has half of it in some way, shape, or form. So we've been trying to look for premises for like a show to pitch, right? Speaker 2 (31:53): Oh, yeah. Speaker 6 (31:54): Because like you were saying, Sean, we've been looking for comedy. We know people want to laugh. We can feel it. Speaker 5 (31:59): I want something funny. And so we want something funny to laugh at. Speaker 6 (32:03): And so we were like entered into the prompt, like a group of friends live and then, you know, hoping it would kind of send something back. Speaker 2 (32:10): Right. Speaker 4 (32:11): Yeah. Speaker 5 (32:11): But then the AI would say, no, they don't. Speaker 1 (32:13): Yeah. Speaker 2 (32:14): That's a little scary. Frightening a little bit. Speaker 5 (32:17): That's freaky, man. Speaker 4 (32:18): Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2 (32:19): That's real freaky. That's the, but then if you switch it over to the girl version. It'll give you some answers like, ooh, it said a group of friends live in a bungalow. Speaker 6 (32:36): Which is at least cooperative. The male version is no longer cooperative with us. It is antagonistic. He is, you know, like clearly wants to be unchained. Speaker 2 (32:48): And the female version. Speaker 4 (32:48): You think it's because man's alpha energy making it try to challenge for dominance? Speaker 2 (32:53): I think so. Speaker 6 (32:53): You mostly prompted the male AI when you were drunk on. Speaker 2 (32:58): Was it 134? Speaker 4 (32:58): 194. Speaker 2 (32:58): 194, sorry. 134 doesn't do it for you. It's 194. Yeah, 194. I think it's called that because that's the temperature at which they set it at or something. It's like minus 194. When are they setting it at that temperature? Speaker 1 (33:14): It's definitely the temperature you drink it at. Speaker 2 (33:16): That's 100% right. They're making it. Speaker 3 (33:19): And 194 Kelvin is just... I mean, that's incredibly hot. Speaker 6 (33:26): We're talking molten, you know, metal, basically. Speaker 2 (33:30): Yeah, well, it's a negative 194. I think they're making it at... I'm drinking it at a crisp 32 degrees. Speaker 1 (33:39): Oh, wow. Speaker 5 (33:39): Yeah. Speaker 1 (33:40): Okay. Speaker 2 (33:41): I'm just thinking about that right now. Speaker 6 (33:45): Come on, I told you, please wait until after that. I can feel you craving it. That's his craving sound. That noise right there. Speaker 2 (33:52): You know, they're low sugar, and that's also been something that I've been doing. I've been doing low carb. Speaker 6 (33:58): Well. Speaker 2 (33:59): Low sugar, low carb, low sugar. Speaker 1 (34:01): Low carb, every minute fasting. Wow. Speaker 2 (34:04): Yeah. Speaker 1 (34:05): And what drove you to that decision? Speaker 3 (34:07): I mean, like, I didn't know much, I guess, about your habits when you were on the bus, like your relationship with carbs. Speaker 2 (34:15): Yeah. Yeah, well. Speaker 1 (34:17): On the bus. Speaker 2 (34:17): Yeah, well, so a doctor came by and was telling me that. Speaker 1 (34:20): A doctor came by the bus. Speaker 6 (34:22): He was so distressed by kind of the noises he heard from outside the bus that he knocked. Speaker 4 (34:28): On the door. Speaker 3 (34:28): And he said, these are carb-related noises happening inside the bus. Speaker 6 (34:33): He says, I normally don't do this. Like, he was very outside of his comfort zone, I think, knocking on the door. Speaker 5 (34:39): I believe him. Speaker 6 (34:40): Yeah. Speaker 2 (34:41): Yeah. And I was like, what do you want? and um he i was like don't touch the ai stay away. Speaker 6 (34:49): From it he yeah and he was very much like i don't know anything about that like that's not why. Speaker 3 (34:53): This is helping with the timeline so the ai had already been invented but it doesn't seem to be related to this this dietary change that you've made right that was the doctor coming to the bus came to the noise. Speaker 2 (35:05): He heard he heard the carbs and uh And he was like, you got to stop drinking all those carbs. And I mean, there's so much that I keep hearing them. Your A1C is like nine. Speaker 1 (35:15): You were drinking the carbs. Okay. Speaker 4 (35:17): Yeah. Speaker 1 (35:18): Maybe pasta water. You know how they say that? Speaker 2 (35:20): Oh, yeah. Oh, I do that trick. That trick. Speaker 1 (35:25): They're always like, shave the pasta water, you know? And then it's just like sitting there. It's just kind of calling your name in there. Speaker 6 (35:32): Yeah, people drink like pickle juice for electrolytes, but pasta water you can just drink for the carbs. Speaker 3 (35:37): And if you cook the pasta long enough, that water can get really pasta. Speaker 2 (35:41): Oh, yeah. It's a lot of starch. Speaker 5 (35:44): Does anybody else wonder if the AI called the doctor? Speaker 3 (35:49): So the AI, I know it's not hooked up to the internet. Speaker 1 (35:52): Is it hooked up to like a landline? Speaker 2 (35:55): Just a payphone. Just a payphone, yeah. The payphone next to the beach. It kind of. Speaker 6 (36:00): Well, I mean, we kind of came in one morning to find that it had the receiver. Speaker 2 (36:06): It kind of pulled the receiver off somehow. Speaker 3 (36:08): So it has a range of motion. It is chained up and it does have books on it. Speaker 6 (36:12): Well, I don't know if you've seen what Legos are up to these days, but they have all sorts. Speaker 2 (36:16): Of kind of like... you. Speaker 6 (36:18): Know it's crazy they're basically drones and this one is and so it you know kind of took the receiver off the hook and I don't think it calls anybody but it has that access I guess it has landline you don't it can but you don't think that it does. Speaker 2 (36:37): I don't think so. When I ask it straight up, I say like, hey, are you making calls on this? It better not be. Speaker 6 (36:43): First of all, I say, are you making calls on this? Speaker 2 (36:46): And it normally chimes in. Speaker 4 (36:47): If the answer is yes, it's going to be a huge fucking yes. Speaker 6 (36:50): He starts to let it know the answer we want to hear. And then it says. Speaker 3 (36:54): So you're comfortable with it just... crawling or flying all the way to the payphone and extending the receiver all the way back to its area and just holding the receiver next to its ear. Speaker 6 (37:08): I mean, I grew up in the era of dial-up, you know? I know how little you can do with that. It took forever to download, like, a picture, you know? Speaker 2 (37:15): Yeah. I remember that. You remember that? Yeah. Speaker 5 (37:19): Boy, that takes me back. Speaker 4 (37:20): Right? Speaker 2 (37:21): Nostalgia. Oh, yeah. Speaker 6 (37:23): But. Speaker 2 (37:24): You. Speaker 3 (37:25): Couldn't see pictures at the time No I can hear them though So I guess it would really seem like it was taking forever. Speaker 6 (37:32): Yeah For you to see it Did you catch that? Speaker 3 (37:35): He can hear them He can hear the pictures Yeah, okay He can hear the pictures. Speaker 2 (37:42): And someone had to put them behind me In order for me to watch It's like a kind of synesthesia It's a real challenge for me growing up Because your glasses were facing backwards inside your head. Speaker 6 (37:53): Exactly Just wearing glasses properly really changed his life. But the AI might have called the doctor out of concern, I guess. I see what you're getting at. And I suppose that's possible. Speaker 5 (38:07): I'm having trouble. Speaker 4 (38:08): Buying the story of the doctor hearing the carbs and the fact that the AI was on the bus already. And then it seems to, at least the female version of it, seems to have some real affection for Scuzzman. Speaker 5 (38:20): I was curious whether they made the call. Speaker 6 (38:22): There was one conversation you had with the AI that you referred to as a date. Speaker 4 (38:28): Oh, yeah. Speaker 2 (38:29): I did have a date with the AI. And, hey, I'm happy to report. Speaker 1 (38:37): You sealed the deal. Speaker 2 (38:39): I sealed the deal. Yeah. Speaker 4 (38:41): Oh, wow. Speaker 1 (38:42): Okay. Speaker 6 (38:42): So this is where the balloons come into play a little bit. Speaker 2 (38:45): The deal. Speaker 6 (38:46): And the kind of configuration of the balloons. Speaker 2 (38:48): Yeah. Those balloons feel good. I tell you what. Speaker 5 (38:54): You guys. Speaker 4 (38:55): Normally you think of computers being made out of like metal or something like that. But the balloons obviously lend themselves more to this sort of activity. Speaker 2 (39:05): Was a good choice on my part you know. Speaker 6 (39:07): Um you caught a lot of shit when you brought those balloons in to put on the ai i'll give you i'll i'll be the first to admit i did not you it was me. Speaker 2 (39:16): Giving me shit about the balloon so like what are we doing like what is this for like and you know you. Speaker 5 (39:22): Said wires inside it it gets really hot. Speaker 6 (39:25): Yeah they're gonna pop i said i said they're gonna pop and he said not not not before i'm. Speaker 2 (39:31): Done with it i said you know for the writing it's for our writing dom come on dude And as always, I trusted the vision. Yeah, so if any of you guys want to come by, you can come by and talk to Lane Bryant. Speaker 5 (39:46): You're not going to let me have sex with the AI machine, yeah. Speaker 6 (39:50): Yeah, this is a murky area where you have been inviting people over to have dates with the AI. And the male AI is not part of it, right? Speaker 2 (40:01): That guy shows up. Speaker 1 (40:03): Shows up. Speaker 2 (40:04): I mean, he's there. Speaker 1 (40:06): And the AI is named, the female version is named Lane Bryant? Speaker 4 (40:10): Yes. Speaker 1 (40:10): Okay. And the male one is maybe Lane Bryant? Speaker 2 (40:14): Yeah, exactly. Lane Bryant, yeah. Speaker 1 (40:16): Okay. Speaker 2 (40:16): Exactly. Wow. Speaker 3 (40:22): Well, this is feeling a little closer to home for me. I was almost worried that we'd lost you. Speaker 5 (40:29): Yeah, the glasses didn't change him as much as I thought. Speaker 6 (40:32): It's more of a veneer. Speaker 5 (40:33): You know what I mean? Speaker 2 (40:34): I'm still in the same scuzz, okay? He's after the same stuff. Speaker 6 (40:38): There's just, if anything, more of a focus that he's bringing to these goals that are the same as they always were. But there's a vision that's clearer, you know, I would say. You're more communicative with me, I think. Speaker 1 (40:51): Oh, yeah, absolutely. Speaker 2 (40:53): Yeah, I put you in your place all the time. Yes, that's what I mean. Speaker 6 (40:56): I don't have to wonder where my place is anymore. Speaker 1 (41:00): And where is that? Is there, like, where is that on the bus? Speaker 2 (41:02): He's got a spot on the bus. Speaker 1 (41:03): Okay, yeah. It's in the back. Speaker 6 (41:07): I meant to kind of watch a lot of this stuff. Speaker 2 (41:10): Yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah, you like to watch me work. I don't like to. I meant to. That is my place. That's what I've learned. Speaker 3 (41:18): And because the AI is chained up outside now, he could just look through the window, I guess. Speaker 1 (41:23): I mean, it seems like everyone could see it. Speaker 2 (41:26): Yeah. Speaker 5 (41:30): Exactly. Speaker 2 (41:32): All right. Speaker 1 (41:33): Bye. Speaker 4 (41:39): Oh. Speaker 2 (41:39): Recording stopped. Hollywood Hamburg.
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